Vendor Takeback Mortgages….. Again….
This video looks at vendor take back mortgages and explains why they don’t usually work in Canada
Hi, everyone, Rowan Smith with the Mortgage Centre. I want to talk today about vendor takeback mortgages. I’m getting a lot more inquiries no them, and there’s a fundamental misunderstanding out there about how they apply and whether or not you can really use them.
A lot of the no-money-down programs, Carlton Sheets and all these other guys that are out there, have been using vendor takeback mortgages. Those programs are predominantly American. Now the technique does work here, but it’s not as simple as people think.
What they’ll often say to me is, “Rowan, I want to buy a $400, 000 house. I don’t have the 5% down, so I want to take a vendor takeback for the 5%.” What that means is that the seller is loaning you the 5% down payment.
Sounds good. The only problem is, it’s not allowed. You can’t do it under Canadian banking systems, because to do 5% down, the person who’s got the first mortgage either has to get CMHC, Genworth, or Canada Guarantee in mortgage insurance, most commonly CMHC.
CMHC is not going to allow you to borrow 5% behind their 95% financing. Part of it’s just simple risk. Knowing that you have absolutely no money in the deal and have nothing to lose if you walk away doesn’t give them a lot of security that you’re going to make your payments.
But secondly, you end up borrowing more than the purchase price. And the reason is, when you pay, put 5% down, you’re going to be looking at a mortgage insurance premium through CMHC for Genworth or Canada Guarantee of anywhere between 2.75% and 3.35%, depending on what program you buy through.
So if you’re looking at 95% financing plus the additional funds for the premium, you’re up at 98% financing. Now you’re going to add your 5% that you’re getting from the vendor. So you’re up over 100% of financing. They’re simply not going to allow that.
And while the math may make good sense, or it may make sense to your realtor or advisor why you can do this, it’s realistically not going to happen in Canadian real estate. I’ve seen too many applications where people have tried to do a vendor takeback, and it’s really considered a dirty word in the industry at this point.
So if you’re thinking of a vendor takeback, the only time you can really do it are on commercial transactions or when you already have a very sizable chunk of money from a percentage standpoint, 20%-plus for example, and are looking to maybe top that up by borrowing a bit back from the vendor.
There are number of ways we can structure this, and I can help you do that. If you have any questions on vendor takebacks, please call me with your situation, let me go through it with you, and we’ll see if we can make it work.
For the Mortgage Centre, I’m Rowan Smith.
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Ok I was just checking because I thought this was a story about all the mortgage backed securities that were going under. It started at the top and it worked its way down. The reality of it is that people were buying homes, not reading what they were signing, not understanding how it worked and shame on the people who were putting it in front of them, knowing that they didnt know and we all need to take a little responsibility here for this past crisis. It is not just the Wall Street firms; its not just the mortgage companies and banks, the brokers have little in fact to do with it, we didnt create the loan products that people were buying, we were merely disseminating it to the public. I am glad to say I was not a part of any of that. I was able to stay away and do traditional, conventional type financing for people. So luckily I didnt have a lot of clients who got stuck into that nightmare.
Speaking of that nightmare, Dan when we talk about the people who have had foreclosures, their lives have been turned around, turned over and they think that there is no where for them to go. One of the nice things about the Federal Housing Administration loan, the FHA loan, thats the first time home buyer type loan, the minimum down payment loan, its only 3 years after you have had a foreclosure that you can qualify to purchase a home again. So it is important if you have had a foreclosure, you need to point your future away from the flame, you need to save your money, do your best, work as tightly as you can on a budget and look forward to that time when you can go back out and buy a home again.
Property values are going to be up from where they are today, but there is still going to be plenty of great value out there and there are not going to be loan products that are going to get you in trouble again. They wont exist. What really caused the great inflation in home values starting in about 2002 was the financing was just getting crazy. I wont get into a whole lot of technical stuff about mortgage backed securities and all that, but the lenders were creating products, selling them off their books, thinking that they would never have to worry about them again. They sold trillions of dollars worth of these loans and those are the ones that are going bad.
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In a lot of cases yes, but once again I definitely want to point his out just because someone is self employed and owns a small business and they do write everything off, that does not mean that they will not qualify. They may have been told now that they have to go stated income because of tax returns, but most people, the small business owner, the consumer doesnt know how to analyze his taxes, whether or not he is going to qualify for financing thats not his area.
Most CPAs dont even know how to analyze taxes to extrapolate enough income back out where we can use it as income, so just because a person is self employed does not mean that they cant qualify for financing and honestly nothing could be further from the truth. Plenty of people self employed, small business owners will qualify using their tax returns.
I think that anyone right now who doesnt own a home should be giving you a call getting pre-qualified. If nothing else give you a call and see what you can do. So you say, I wrote off a bunch of stuff last year and I am not going to be able to buy a house well maybe you can. But get in there, have a professional, have someone who knows what to do, whos been in the business for 15 years, have them take a look at it and decide whether or not you can really get that loan.
One of the things with my mortgage education; I am a certified mortgage planner. I am a certified mortgage analyst and a certified mortgage planning specialist. The significant part of that training and those certificates is in analyzing complex tax returns and we analyze complicated tax returns for professional athletes, for professional musicians, all the time. There is income always, it is just a matter of knowing how to get all of it out there. So I think we have kind of hit that.
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If a lender does tell you no, it would be like going to a doctor and he says you have to have your arm amputated because you have a pimple on it. I think you are going to go get a second opinion, maybe even a third. To make sure you dont have to have it cut off. And that is exactly what we have here, if you go to a lender and he says, Well you are going to have to put down 20% you know he is not an FHA lender. So run out of there and call Michael at Velocity Financial and get yourself pre qualified.
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