Vendor Takeback Mortgages….. Again….
This video looks at vendor take back mortgages and explains why they don’t usually work in Canada
Hi, everyone, Rowan Smith with the Mortgage Centre. I want to talk today about vendor takeback mortgages. I’m getting a lot more inquiries no them, and there’s a fundamental misunderstanding out there about how they apply and whether or not you can really use them.
A lot of the no-money-down programs, Carlton Sheets and all these other guys that are out there, have been using vendor takeback mortgages. Those programs are predominantly American. Now the technique does work here, but it’s not as simple as people think.
What they’ll often say to me is, “Rowan, I want to buy a $400, 000 house. I don’t have the 5% down, so I want to take a vendor takeback for the 5%.” What that means is that the seller is loaning you the 5% down payment.
Sounds good. The only problem is, it’s not allowed. You can’t do it under Canadian banking systems, because to do 5% down, the person who’s got the first mortgage either has to get CMHC, Genworth, or Canada Guarantee in mortgage insurance, most commonly CMHC.
CMHC is not going to allow you to borrow 5% behind their 95% financing. Part of it’s just simple risk. Knowing that you have absolutely no money in the deal and have nothing to lose if you walk away doesn’t give them a lot of security that you’re going to make your payments.
But secondly, you end up borrowing more than the purchase price. And the reason is, when you pay, put 5% down, you’re going to be looking at a mortgage insurance premium through CMHC for Genworth or Canada Guarantee of anywhere between 2.75% and 3.35%, depending on what program you buy through.
So if you’re looking at 95% financing plus the additional funds for the premium, you’re up at 98% financing. Now you’re going to add your 5% that you’re getting from the vendor. So you’re up over 100% of financing. They’re simply not going to allow that.
And while the math may make good sense, or it may make sense to your realtor or advisor why you can do this, it’s realistically not going to happen in Canadian real estate. I’ve seen too many applications where people have tried to do a vendor takeback, and it’s really considered a dirty word in the industry at this point.
So if you’re thinking of a vendor takeback, the only time you can really do it are on commercial transactions or when you already have a very sizable chunk of money from a percentage standpoint, 20%-plus for example, and are looking to maybe top that up by borrowing a bit back from the vendor.
There are number of ways we can structure this, and I can help you do that. If you have any questions on vendor takebacks, please call me with your situation, let me go through it with you, and we’ll see if we can make it work.
For the Mortgage Centre, I’m Rowan Smith.
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Need a Down Payment to Buy a New Home? Here are Some Ideas. (Mortgage Broker)
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The biggest barrier to entry for most anxious first time home buyers is the down payment. Coming up with a chunk of cash all at once that you are comfortable saying good bye to for a while.
What many do not know or have a misconception of is that there are other ways to get a down payment other than your savings or chequings account.
So what are they? What other possible sources can you use to get your down payment?
Lets start from the top and I will list them in the order that banks favor the most to least as where the funds come from and how much your down payment is has a huge effect on what your are worth to a mortgage lender and whether they will even qualify you for a mortgage loan.
1. Top of the list, of course is your savings. If you have the discipline to save your money and keep it in plain sight without spending it then the banks will really like you and want to trust you with their money. This is obviously the most favorable situation. One thing to note however is that the money you are using must be in your bank account for at least 90 days. The reason for this is to make sure it isn’t money laundering or that it isn’t untaxed cash, etc. If the money has been in your account for less than 90 days then they will want documentation of some kind proving where you got the money.
2. Ann RRSP account is the next best thing to your actual savings account as it is simply a different a variation of it. You have been disciplined enough to put away money each year and now you are using it to buy a home. Banks will like this.
Some things to note however; if you are not a first time home buyer then you will get taxed on this money. Depending on what tax bracket you are in will determine if this is a good idea for you. If you are a first time home buyer then you can use up to $25,000 towards your down payment TAX FREE.
3. Pulling Equity from Another Home is also looked upon nicely because it too is another variation of saving. However, to pull out equity you must refinance that property which means you need to be able to qualify for both mortgages. This is usually not a problem. It just depends on your assets, income and current employment situation.
I can help you with both transactions of refinancing and the purchase to help this process move smoother for you and to structure it so that you are using your equity in the best way possible for your situation.
4. Gifted Down Payment. There is a lot of confusion on what exactly is a gifted down payment so I am making a video blog specifically targeted to this topic (so don’t forget to subscribe to this channel) but basically this is not where you can get money from your friend to use as a down payment. You must get it from a direct family member. DIRECT, not cousins, aunts, etc. It must be your Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, or Child. If you grew up with your aunt and uncle or some different circumstance like that then there can be some exceptions made. I will just have to approach the lender with your story.
Proper Gifted paperwork must also be filled out to use this method of down payment and I can provide this for you when the time comes. All it really needs is a signature from the Gifter saying that they are giving this money to you with no strings attached and that you will never have to pay it back.
5. The final method of obtaining a down payment is by putting it on your credit cards or lines of credit. This is solely going to depend on how much credit you have and whether you will qualify for the mortgage with this additional debt attached to you.
An example of this is if you only have a $20k credit card and you will be maxing this debt out to get your down payment then the banks will be nervous to give you money. If however, you have a $50k line of credit and pulling out $20k will be nothing near dangerous for you then this wont be so bad.
The bank does not want you to struggle for your payments. They want to make sure that your mortgage is going to get paid back and if you are tapped out financially then the chances of you defaulting on the loan becomes greater.
So hopefully this gives you a good overview of down payments; where you can get it from and how the mortgage lenders view them.
If you have any questions just give me a call, 604.313.9996 or email coss.L@mortgagecentre.com. You can also go to my website to apply online at http://leahcoss.ca or read more of my blogs at http://MortgagesInVancouver.com
Leah Coss
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